a topic we should discuss

[Shadowstar1922]

i love the poem

[Boxorino]

i love the poem

me too!!

[Blood Knight]

Yeah...clothing does make people more susseptable.

These are movies? O_O

Yeah. Society works that way.

When girls do the equal to me it's a compliment...

10th grade and it tore him up for weeks...well, this said what he is.

Men don't like to be called women because they are opposite. Women don't like to be called manly because it's opposite.

I'm asexual...

Equality will never happen. Shocking as it may be.

[Shadowstar1922]

"Yeah...clothing does make people more susseptable."
This doesn't give you a right, nor an excuse to rape someone.

I could say your ignorance provoked me to brutally murder you. How well do you think that's gonna go in court?

"These are movies? O_O"
Yes, there are movies.

"Yeah. Society works that way."

Doesn't mean it can't change. If a close relative of mine died, or a best friend died, I am going to cry. If i get seriously injured on the court and the pain is unbearable, I am going to cry. If I'm facing social problems and conflicts to the point where i've lost all my friends and people think less of me, I am going to cry. Just because I'm male, doesn't mean i shouldn't cry. The gender standards don't make sense and are all made up. The fact that society says men need to bottle up all their emotions is one of the main reasons why men have anger issues because that is the only emotion they're allowed to express without getting major backfire and judgement.

I mean, look at animals. It's obvious gender roles are nearly non-existent. the ones that exist only happen to pertain to effectively raising children and even then, they're fluid. One day the male wolf will go hunt and the female will stay. Another day the female decides to hunt and the male watches over them. But other than that, most complex and social creatures fail to have any specific, narrowed down, and categorized gender roles. To find out if a dog, cat, lion, zebra, tiger, monky, gorilla, dolphin, orangutans, wolves, leopards, etc are male or female you have to look at their junk because their personality and actions and traits don't reflect on male/female roles or standards.

"When girls do the equal to me it's a compliment..."

Just because you like it, doesn't mean everyone else is going to like it. You can't force your preferences on other people. That's like you keep punching your girlfriend across the face when you're playing around because you like it when your bros hit you all the time when you guys fool around and when she gets mad you act all appalled and says she needs to get over it. It's not going to work well.

"10th grade and it tore him up for weeks...well, this said what he is."

Pussies are cowards or act timid. Overreacting to name calling is not being a pussy. That's called being a naive child.

"Men don't like to be called women because they are opposite. Women don't like to be called manly because it's opposite."

Er, not exactly. Men get offended if people think they're just a little feminine. When people call me something i'm the opposite of, I laugh. I correct them. I say they're a joke. But if tell a guy that something he does is kind of girly, then you just set off word war 3 and their ego and sovereignty of masculinity gets threatened and they freak out because society tells boys that they have to and need to preserve their masculinity and if anything you do makes you seem a little masculinity/femininity fluid then that guy needs to fix himself right away or else face criticism and sometimes discrimination.

But girls acting a little masculine, no one makes a big deal out it. No one cares. The girl most certainly doesn't care. She'll laugh it off. Except, that is, when the woman is taking leadership. Theeen certain people get pissy and annoyed and call her bitchy because certain people think leadership is a masculine trait only for men.

"Equality will never happen. Shocking as it may be."

Doesn't mean you can't fight for it. That's a shitty excuse to not be in favor of a reform or a progressive idea. the South Africans never thought that they would ever get a democracy, and the blacks never thought they were going to be treated equal. And people would say, "it's never gonna happen, haha sucks 2 be u" but they kept fighting for it for decades and decades until it finally happened.

I'm sure if you keep fighting for a progressive idea, such as equality, it will prevail. Maybe not in the most perfect, most absolute, fashion, but it will slowly get there.

[Foopzheart]

I don't think when Blood said that clothing makes people more susceptible, he didn't mean that wearing certain clothes is flaunting and "asking for it". He may have just been saying that some clothes may actually make the person easier to assault. You know?

Anyway, I think that people take this way out of hand. I saw something yesterday, along the lines of "people need to realize the difference between feminism and misandry" and that is true. Some people who label themselves as feminists take things like rape culture and "privilege" and take it way out of hand, just using it to gear the entire thing against men and put them in a negative light. For example, I once saw that somebody made a list of male privileges. I read it, and among the list was "the privilege to rape" (which nobody has, that's why it's illegal) and "the privilege to have no privileges" which was really just saying that men have the privilege to deny negative claims about themselves, which makes no sense, because anybody can do that.

And then these people take it to the next level and want to be right and want to put people in a negative light so much that they make up statistics. One said that ninety-eight percent of women have been sexually assaulted. Do you know how wrong that is? The survey that the "one in four" statistic is based off of was done in 1982 (which is enough reason to test this again) and said that 15% of women had been assaulted. Yes, only 15%. That is, not one in four.

The problem here is that the negative part of a group is, yet again, seen as the majority. Now, the statistic (98%) may be just made up to make people look bad, or it actually could be delusional. Somebody brushing against you on a bus isn't a reason to say you were almost assaulted today. The reason rape culture is becoming a joke is because of the people like this, who make things up and overreact at the most ridiculous things. These people need to not be treated seriously.

And I'm not saying rape isn't a serious problem. It's one of THE most serious problems in today's society. But misandrists are people taking feminism/rape and turning it into joke fodder for sites like 4Chan.

Now bring on the hate.

[Boxorino]

98% seems quite off, what with it being only 1 out of 5 women only having been raped or something like that. also rape isn't cool. you know what's cool?? monster trucks.

[Foopzheart]

you know what else is cool? me

[Boxorino]

100% cool.

[The Dice Man]

Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending a state of equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for WOMEN.

I think feminism is just as bad as what you'd call our culture now, You don't want equality you want everything in favor of Women.
Almost all if not all of feminism points can be the same for males
eg:
- Someone called my best a friend a pussy - someone called my best friend a dick.
The feminist won't complain about someone calling someone a dick tho? Only a pussy.

If your biggest problem is someone stereotyping you, You've a good life.
I don't mind an equal gender thingy but feminism isn't the answer,
If you want Equal gender life then Have one, Stereotyping ISN'T non-gender equality as it happens to BOTH genders.

[Shadowstar1922]

Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending a state of equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for WOMEN.

I think feminism is just as bad as what you'd call our culture now, You don't want equality you want everything in favor of Women.
Almost all if not all of feminism points can be the same for males
eg:
- Someone called my best a friend a pussy - someone called my best friend a dick.
The feminist won't complain about someone calling someone a dick tho? Only a pussy.

If your biggest problem is someone stereotyping you, You've a good life.
I don't mind an equal gender thingy but feminism isn't the answer,
If you want Equal gender life then Have one, Stereotyping ISN'T non-gender equality as it happens to BOTH genders.

Okay, really quick, short, simple.

The idea of feminism, is that men and women are equal in all aspects of society, the economy, the work enviroment, at home, on the streets, legally, federally, etc. If you believe this, then you are a feminist.

If there are people who use feminism to give more power to women and ignore men's unneeded stereotypes, and hate men, then whoop-de-fucking-do, you're not a feminist.

Does that make sense?

Women who hate and degrade men may call themselves a feminist, but they don't fit the definition, since they're discriminating and stereotyping men.

Just because you claim yourself to be of a certain idealogy, doesn't mean you're actually that. You need to fit the standards.

Was Stalin really communist? No. He fucked everything up.

I could go around saying I'm a teacher of the public schools but when you look into my history, whoah i never got my masters, I never even took internship at my local schools, but wait guys i'm serious i'm a teacher of the public schools u gotta believe me

That doesn't work.

Do you understand?

If a woman is degrading men and fighting for a society where women have the upper hand and she claims she is a feminist, then the bitch is not a fucking feminist.

Is this clear?