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Postby evilzombie » 08 Feb 2010, 03:33
donovan0422 wrote:Yes.
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Postby Roi-antimalwaregeek » 22 Feb 2010, 09:30
It is really shocking the way the people suffered in Haiti. The earthquakes devastated everything. There is food insecurity, water shortage, no communication facilities and people there are suffering. Although every country is sending aid, help is still required. We as humans have to help them and join hands together to show the Haitians that we are there with them. Let us pray for the Haiti earthquake victims and let us work harder to help them. Just think! If we even decrease 1% of our consumption and use that money as donation, Haitians can recover even faster. There are many sites which we can use as donation. Maybe your respective Governments have some special facility for charity. Let us use it. Just imagine your relatives having no water for 20 days and they all are dehydrated. Just imagine what would it be if you were in their situation. Sounds dangerous. However, it's reality for those who have suffered. So let us help the Haiti victims. 
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Postby Hitokiri » 22 Feb 2010, 10:59
How about we...uhm...don't.
Haïti has already gotten billions of support by now. Even those poeple that haven't contributed directly have done so indirectly through their respective governments. The fact of the matter is this though. Haïti was a poor country and will stay a poor country. They have no economy to speak of, no tourism to make up for it and have violence, corruption and several other things that destroy countries. Frankly you can pump in all the world's money into it, it won't make haïti one bit better. It's like a black hole where it all sinks in.
And to help haiti now after a desaster is just hypocritical. For years these problems have been going on and the world has ignored them. Now all of the sudden money is needed to rebuild things...rebuild what, shacks? It's the same problem like Africa, only some parts of Africa not being suffered by (civil) war are having an economy, are starting up things, that will result in them joining our global village.
Now I'm not saying that you can't send humanitarian aid. That is definately needed. But to randomly throw money at it, that's just a waste. It only eases your own conscience.
I'ld rather donate money to help fix problems in my own country, or to medical research (as that betters the world really).

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Postby Roi-antimalwaregeek » 23 Feb 2010, 05:39
Imagine 1 massive earthquake in your town and 15 aftershocks all above the 5.0 magnitude. It is true that Haiti is poor but every country was poor once upon a time. But today Haiti has become poorer. Yes, you may try to develop your own country. Truly a noble deed. But there are people in some parts of the world which even don't get basic needs i.e. food, clothing and shelter. I dont know about your country. However I have a doubt that you stay in a developed one. If you compare the poor in your country with the poor ones in Haiti, there will be a huge difference. It is also possible that the poor ones in your country may be accepted as richest in underdeveloped countries. You maybe correct that there are billions.... but billions is not enough. I am not just putting forward a temporary proposal for donations. I am saying that we can just decrease 1% of our daily consumptions and use that money for donation. ..... Haiti will remain a poor country ....
If we just scan through history textbooks, imperialists have exploited resources of countries which is one main reason why countries are underdeveloped. If we want countries to enter the global village, we have to help them. I just watched the news yesterday that communication facilities still haven't improved because there was an aftershock recently. Haiti is not a black hole where everything sinks. There are instances where there are improvements due to the aid provided by countries. The fact of the matter is this though. Haïti was a poor country and will stay a poor country. They have no economy to speak of, no tourism to make up for it and have violence, corruption and several other things that destroy countries. Frankly you can pump in all the world's money into it, it won't make haïti one bit better. It's like a black hole where it all sinks in.
And to help haiti now after a desaster is just hypocritical. For years these problems have been going on and the world has ignored them. Now all of the sudden money is needed to rebuild things...rebuild what, shacks?
Is that a good thing? We all sleep in concrete buildings or houses. Forget concrete houses! they even don't have money to build shacks. Of course, one has to help Haiti. If you do not help them after that devastating disaster, when are you going to do it? I know Haiti has suffered like this many times before... But are we gonna repeat our mistakes again. It is better to do something now than never. That is definately needed. But to randomly throw money at it, that's just a waste.
If you donate money, it never is a waste. they will at least be able to build some temporary tents so that they can at least live. I'ld rather donate money to help fix problems in my own country, or to medical research (as that betters the world really).
As I said, You are doing a great job! But what's the use of that medical research... If you aren't ready to donate thinking that it's a waste, you won't even share that medical research with others, only one country or one individual will benefit from such an activity. Medical research also has it's disadvantages. I also agree with you that corruption exists. At the end, things do fall short but something is better than nothing. I am donating money only of the thought that Haitians can get some meals and water so that they can survive. I am not cutting your pockets though! 
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Postby NeonBond » 23 Feb 2010, 06:15
If we were all to donate a little bit to haiti, thats A LOT of money being donated. I donated 5 dollars, no skin off my nose. The thing is, i go to school, hear about what happened in haiti, donated a little, then go on with my life.
As far as the government in haiti goes, it really doesnt affect me since i dont live in haiti. call me a selfish american, but its up to haiti to get thier 'stuff together'.
If California (where i live) were to recieve the BIG one, the US should be able to help us out (i hope), kinda like in louisiana with hurricane katrina. Theyre all patched up now.
im not very good at this deep thinking kinda stuff. i just pulled this outta mah butt, hoping it made sense
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Postby Noonie » 25 Feb 2010, 04:00
NeonBond wrote:If we were all to donate a little bit to haiti, thats A LOT of money being donated. I donated 5 dollars, no skin off my nose. The thing is, i go to school, hear about what happened in haiti, donated a little, then go on with my life.
As far as the government in haiti goes, it really doesnt affect me since i dont live in haiti. call me a selfish american, but its up to haiti to get thier 'stuff together'.
If California (where i live) were to recieve the BIG one, the US should be able to help us out (i hope), kinda like in louisiana with hurricane katrina. Theyre all patched up now.
im not very good at this deep thinking kinda stuff. i just pulled this outta mah butt, hoping it made sense
HAHAHAHA neon, New Orleans ain't gonna be patched up for a while. Half the city's still gone, and my 89-year-old great granny lives in a FEMA trailer with another family. Oh and my 89-year-old granny wasn't the only one in Katrina to lose everything, down there it's a usual thing to have hurricanes so not everybody packed up and left. Everything my granny and her neighbours owned was gone. Cars, houses, clothes, even things like athsma inhalers were gone. Some people who never put their money in the banks really have nothing. New Orleans, my favourite place, gone. Still gone. And it's been what, 5 years? Typical American move, half finish a job and move on to another cause. In about a month, most Americans will call Haïti 'patched up'.
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Postby Roi-antimalwaregeek » 26 Feb 2010, 13:49
I can understand the fact that USA too has suffered from disasters. Yes, it is really sad to see people dying but we have to accept it that it is a part of life. But I hope that we can contribute for the betterment of mankind as long as we do not harm Mother Nature. My Warm regards to all of you. 
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Postby Connor » 26 Mar 2010, 22:38
thenonconformist wrote:NeonBond wrote:If we were all to donate a little bit to haiti, thats A LOT of money being donated. I donated 5 dollars, no skin off my nose. The thing is, i go to school, hear about what happened in haiti, donated a little, then go on with my life.
As far as the government in haiti goes, it really doesnt affect me since i dont live in haiti. call me a selfish american, but its up to haiti to get thier 'stuff together'.
If California (where i live) were to recieve the BIG one, the US should be able to help us out (i hope), kinda like in louisiana with hurricane katrina. Theyre all patched up now.
im not very good at this deep thinking kinda stuff. i just pulled this outta mah butt, hoping it made sense
HAHAHAHA neon, New Orleans ain't gonna be patched up for a while. Half the city's still gone, and my 89-year-old great granny lives in a FEMA trailer with another family. Oh and my 89-year-old granny wasn't the only one in Katrina to lose everything, down there it's a usual thing to have hurricanes so not everybody packed up and left. Everything my granny and her neighbours owned was gone. Cars, houses, clothes, even things like athsma inhalers were gone. Some people who never put their money in the banks really have nothing. New Orleans, my favourite place, gone. Still gone. And it's been what, 5 years? Typical American move, half finish a job and move on to another cause. In about a month, most Americans will call Haïti 'patched up'.
Thankx for calling American's stupid Noncon, I'm so happy right now. -__- America made a crappy mistake for New Orleans. Atleast their football team won teh Super Bowl. o_O But still, America needs to help it's people before it helps OTHER people! Aka: Britian in WWI and WWII, the tsunami in that Philipine place...
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Postby Connor » 01 Apr 2010, 00:21
Roi-antimalwaregeek wrote:whatever The topic is about haiti, i am reminding you of it
I'm talking about Haiti, and the charities that people THINK are giving to Haiti... but they might not be. 
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