Presidential campaigning madness

[Shadowstar1922]

Obviously i understood that, i think you didnt understand my point:
Does any single person know each and every candidaTe in theit party?Or do you know the ones you get to SEE more often?

The person who is seen more puts more effort into making them self known. That shows they want to be President more. If you were in lets say, the FWG political Party of America. And, you're running for candidate in the party. You tell a few friends, tell them to tell their friends, and then make one or two commercials. But here comes Frook, who's made dozens of commercials, asked companies to sponser him, and even made it aware on the internet as well as asking for his friends to support him and even join the Party to support him. Frook is known more and seen more because he put effort into it. He did more to make himself known This is what usually happens.

Only rarely in America would the whole Democratic or Republican parties sponsor on one person, and usually when that happens, the majority of the Party actually does want that person to represent them.

[Shadow00]

Or:
The FWG political party has a person they need to promote.
It is a very rare case you give everyone equal chances of being promoted.
By the way, how come most of the times, the person that spends most on yheir presidential campaigns gets elected president?

[Shadowstar1922]

Or:
The FWG political party has a person they need to promote.
It is a very rare case you give everyone equal chances of being promoted.
By the way, how come most of the times, the person that spends most on yheir presidential campaigns gets elected president?

Like I said in my earlier post, the person who pus more effort into it will be known more. Most likely, they'll have policies that most of the Democratic or Republican or whatever other party agrees too. Everyone in the same party will have about 90% agreement. Some might be a little low, others will be a little high. That's why they're in the same party. A Political Party won't be divided. The only time they would be, would be who to represent them in the Presidential election. That's probably the only time. They all agree on almost everything. That's why they're in the same party.

And, I think everyone has an equal chance. If you're experienced well enough, you'll know exactly how to well to get known. Barrack Obama did a fine job. He wasn't known at all, and then he put effort into being known, and ended up facing Hilary Clinton on which two would represent the Democratic Party. Hilary Clinton was obviously famous, being a Senator of New York, being First Lady for two terms.(after the election, she was appointed Secretary of State, when Obama wanted her in his Administration) If i'm not mistaken, that general election was pretty close. Another example, Scott Brown filling in the Kennedy Senator of Massachusetts when he died. A whole new election. Scott Brown was barely known Republican, and because he put so much effort into his Campaign, he won and finished the last two years of the Kennedy Senator's term.

So yes, everyone is basically equal. As long as you put in effort.


Effort is needed, Shadow. You can say you'll do all these policies that will benefit your nation so much, but if you don't put effort into getting known, you simply won't win. Just because you could have so many good policies, doesn't mean the people will come to you. You have to go to them. It's politics, Shadow. YOU NEED TO PUT EFFORT!


A lazzy ass bum on the street could own the answers to all a nation's problems, and he decides to become President, but puts no effort into being known, he simply won't be elected.

You go to the People, they don't come to you.

[Shadow00]

And you still believe politics is all about people that care about the world.
Yes the party will agree on someone.
Who? The person that google, cocacola, apple/microsoft will promote.
NOT the one with the most effort, but simply the one with the most connections.
Put in effort as much as you want. Do you fight for your party's best possible future? You won't make it. Both democrats and republicans MUST be near like 40%-37%.
Its true that most americans vote for the party/candidate that spends most money on elections. So where do you think all that money comes from? Sponsors.
What do sponsors gain by donating money? (and im not talking about average people, but of companies). They gain control over a party. Why? They tell them: if you dont do as we choose, we won't fund you again. End of.

Every president fights for his people, until proven otherwise.
And if someone would do something great for his country other than what his sponsors chose, he'd be either blackmailed, or set up on a scandal, or just murdered (although after a couple of cases, this stopped).

We are just headed for a world the companies rule.
Want to call that New World Order? Fine with me, I'm just telling you that that's where all the world's headed to.

[Shadowstar1922]

I'm not sure how it is in Greece, but companies in America don't run Political Parties. xD

Majority of Companies who do sponsor candidates just want to be then sponsored in their commercials. Like, have a Coca Cola can in it somewhere. And even in Political Party commercials in America, they don't say "Brought to you buy, McDonald s" or anything.

In America, politics are apart of our culture, and have been for a long time. Companies who sponsor Parties most likely want that party to win and agree to their policies, so they give them money. Politics are very important to Americans(Besides this crappy generation of Americans who just follow their parents footsteps, rather than following in their footsteps, and then doing research like earlier American generations did) NOT because they want control over the party. And I'm sure there are some companies in America that would say, "We'll give you a lil' something if you say this" But almost all of those aren't big changes, rather than little changes. Political Parties in America don't get bribed by money a lot of the times. Yes, some do, on very rare occasions, but, this country is THAT corrupted XD

They have plenty of other sources to get money from.

[Shadow00]

Ok. So its a utopia. Everything works by the people for the people.
I mean even pot got legalised.
You dont vote for the best. You vote for the lesser evil.
But people dont care about politics and that's k because the majority of people was brought up to be carefree.

What ive been saying here all this time is that politics DOESNT work.
You say the people choose the presidents. Yeah right. The people are morons. They choose whatever candidate the Media throw more propaganda for. Thats how Hitler was elected, thats how Bush was elected.
You need a political system that works? Sure. Just stop all government funding, media and any source of false information. Until then, dont expect stuff running smoothly.

You say politics is a tradition. Im telling you politics was born in my country, and most people would much prefer a dictatorship right now. So yes, if you think thats fine go for it.

Last but not least, "the companies just want their name to be shown?"
Yeah, that's totally legitimate. Cause i wanted to eat at burger king but im a democrat so i should eat at mcdonalds. Yeah thats how people think, sure.
Companies dont have advertisement problems. Im pretty much sure that even the kids in africa know what a big shiny yellow M stands for.

As for those big and little changes. Ill give you three examples of how companies have shaped the world.
1) Lehman Brothers.
2) Any major oil company (BP etc)
3) Pharmaceutical companies.

The first before collapsing was pretty much running half the world.
Due to the second there is war whenever a pod of oil is concerned.
And due to the last the world has been left 30+ years behind.

Or did you think by companies i just meant food and clothing?
Behind every successful government, theres a bank pulling the strings. Same here.